No idea what you are talking about but here’s what the studies I presented do prove about Eating Timing

1) Proved that the body was able to effectively utilize HIGH GLYCEMIC CARBS more effectively for glycogen restoration and muscle recovery during the 2 hour metabolic window following exercise.

EET used this info to design when members can eat more treats post exercise and still create weight loss along with improved blood readings.

Of course eating the calories while your body is at a higher metabolic rate allows for more calories to be consumed during this period as well

2) the second study conclusively proved that the body is burning more fat at a higher rate during the period after you wake up than at any other time during the day.

EET used this to designed a morning routine of eating and activity or exercise to maximize this “max fat burning zone”

So at least to my eyes these studies proved that timing matters far more than calories during these periods — of course i have found studies to support the other periods as well and the result is the EET Fitness Plan.

As for your suggestion about doing a study — I see where those lead — to our current sad state of affairs. Please tell me what good ALL the studies regarding caloric deficits have done? The results have been completely misinterpreted and many people are now afraid to eat a freaking candy bar as if they are committing a crime.

No, I’ll stick with RESULTS for real people as EET’s calling card — I am not worried in the least about experts in the current nutrition industry taking me seriously — none of them have any results in the real world that begin to approach the track record EET has built in a single year.

In fact, I am helping many who were guided by your experts get over years of guilt and shame because they couldn’t follow your expert’s study’s results—SEE EET’S SUCCESSS STORIES BECAUSE MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOW AT OR BELOW THEIR GOAL WEIGHT – that’s more than enough proof for me.

You gave me a chance to express my views and I appreciate it very very much. I will not trouble you further.

Thanks again.

Jon
EET Fitness

I now looked at these studies and none of them support what you are outlining here. Eg, the first study: nowhere does it say that glycogen reuptake is a dependent variable of body fat and therefore total body weight.

And no, you are not the first to design one of these ludicrous diets and neither have you nor the followers of Atkins ever proven in a clinical trial that a hypercaloric diet led to weight loss.

I suggest you do a controlled study and publish your findings. Then you will be taken seriously.

Evilcyber

Here’s a couple of studies to support EET:

every time i try to post a link it blows up so just put the titles google and you can find them

1) Muscle glycogen synthesis after exercise: effect of time of carbohydrate ingestion

J. L. Ivy, A. L. Katz, C. L. Cutler, W. M. Sherman and E. F. Coyle
Department of Kinesiology and Health Education, University of Texas, Austin 78712.

2) Brehm, B.A., and Gutin, B. Recovery energy expenditure for steady state exercise in runners and non-exercisers. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise.

and here are two studies to refute what you say has been proven over and over

1) Effects of diet and deprivation on meal eating behavior in ratsstar,
David A. Levitskya and George Colliera

2) The ingestion of food and the recovery of body weight following fasting in the naive ratstar, open
David A. Levitsky2, a, Irving Faust3, a and Mark Glassman4, a

aDivision of Nutritional Sciences and Department of Psychology, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853 USA

I never implied that reducing calories will NOT create weight loss – it definitely DOES — BUT FOR HOW LONG?

What I said was caloric deficit dieting is a HORRIBLE WEIGHT LOSS DIET PLAN. The 98% failure rate as reported by the Center For Disease Control, the 31+ and growing obesity rate also reported by the CDC are proof that caloric reduction dieting is simply not sustainable. The above studies show that it also slows metabolism to reduce caloric intake which is exactly what I said — lose weight by eating less and welcome to caloric and metabolic JAIL – most people simply don’t want to go to jail of any sort and cannot stay on a caloric deficit diet–therefore they are a failure, plain and simple.

if you can sustain it at all–which most people can’t — but your metabolism doesn’t rebound just because you go off your diet–I could go on but you get the point.

Thanks again for the chance to present facts about EET – EET is open to all questions and scrutiny so if you would like any further info just let me know.

thanks

Jon
EET Fitness

PS I am not the first to design a diet that has no caloric restrictions–Atkins followers can eat amazing amounts of calories and still lose weight and lots of it–no way they create a caloric deficit — how do you suppose they do that?

Well, I figured that out but also figured out how to get the carbs back in the plan and the answer is TIMING.

Jon, it would be sufficient if you send some links to peer-reviewed research in scientific magazines.

That calories are paramount has been proven over and over:

http://evilcyber.com/2010/08/30/eat-less-of-whatever-lose-weight/

Thanks for the follow up comments — I’ll try to be much more brief from here on–don’t mean to hijack the thread by any means:

1) I agree with you on paying –this is the ONLY reason I didn’t offer EET for free when I started the website — ultimately i would love to profit from EET–but I am ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO PROVING IT BEYOND ANYONE’S DOUBT FIRST. Hence the stupidly low trial fees.

2) Many EETers do NO formal exercise and lose weight — Exericse accelerates the metabolic benefits but is not necessary to create weight loss. EET is truly what I am representing it is — EATING TIMING along with normal everyday activity can greatly improve your metabolism and create weight loss — all with no caloric or food restrictions–only restrictions on when you eat certain foods.

Here is a post a current EETer is blogging his EET experience in real time for anyone interested in learning more:

the freaking link won’t let me post — search

How to EET Anything You Want And Be Fit For Life

Finally, thank you VERY much to the owner of this blog for allowing my views to be heard.

Jon
EET Fitness

Ok. I’ll cut all the sarcasm off then. This is my honest opinnion.

One: You need to pay. If it’s free, it’s helping for the sake of it. If I have to pay then it means you have your personal reasons to do it (money).

Two: You say clinical tests are not as good as non-clinical (non-clinical are done to with “real people”?). Then what are the clinically tested people? Robots? I personally believe a indepented study done by an university for example rather than your test subjects. Why? Because it’s both independent so neither side can affect on the outcome. With the eet i did a quick google and found no proper studies. On your page there are stuff like sucess stories etc. but as they are published by the same source that is endorcing this wonder-diet I am quite sceptical.

Just to get everything straight. What EET is about is basicly doing super-hardcore HIIT like five times a week? Because that’s more or less everything I could find. Then again as I said I did do it quite fast.

the comment below about blindly believing EET vs learning about it. (not sure why I can’t reply to it?)

I was only pointing out that I have yet to see a comment asking Dr. Haub to produce any scientific studies yet many many “definitive” conclusions are being drawn because of his results.

And EET’s results are far far far far more dramatic over many more people over a MUCH longer period of time — all documented online for all to see.

so how is that blindly believing anything?

How about this — take a look at Dr. John Ivy’s book “Nutrient Timing” for extensive documented scientific studies on the effects of eating and exercise timing.

Study after Study after Study after Study about the effects of time on metabolism is documented throughout this book.

His work influences EET during several timing zones of the day. There are many many sources EET has used as well that are just as credible–then the pulling together of the comprehensive timing plan has been proven in what EET believes is the best study of all–EET’s FULL 1 YEAR TRIAL OF THE PLAN ON 30 PEOPLE OF ALL AGES SEXES AND HEALTH CONDITIONS BEFORE OFFERING IT TO THE PUBLIC.

Pseudo – crap is conventional dieting’s promise of a better life which has produced MASSIVE OBESITY and a 98% failure rate (EET’s success rate is 80% for people who stay with the plan for over a month by the way-although our sample size is still very small–we have many new members, so now we’ll get a better read)–

and people running around talking about what “works for them” is beyond pseudo crap (including Dr. Haub when it comes to drawing conclusions to apply to the public for weight loss and fitness) — it means NOTHING.

EET was tested in trials –no not clinical trials — REAL TRIALS OF REAL PEOPLE–EET wants to help REAL people, not write scientific papers– FOR OVER A YEAR before being offered to the public.

I personally have lost 35 pounds and kept it off for over 30 months while RAISING MY CALORIC INTAKE 500-1000 CALORIES A DAY and only exercise 30 MINUTES PER DAY 5-6 days per week. I am nearly 48 years old.

But if it only worked for me you would not be reading this post. EET has got to work metabolically for a wide range of people (I have yet to find ONE that has not lost weight trying it–although some are having trouble breaking their old timing patterns so they are not staying with it) or do you really think I would risk the liability of consulting people to EAT WHATEVER THEY WANT AND EXERCISE LESS for a $29.95 3 month trial fee?

It’s not a video, not a book — it’s ME, a certified personal trainer on the phone or IM or email, guiding people through their eating and exercise timing, day after day, week after week, month after month.

Think about that — really think about it.

But again, your point that I do want everyone to question everything is valid and your sarcasm actually kind of funny so you now have some scientific studies to research without having to email me (which is all I asked for by the way)–

wonder if you folks will actually check the research or if you will just continue to believe what you want to believe —

Each individual gets to make their own choice and I certainly wish all luck in their efforts — this stuff can be very challenging, at least EET makes it fun because you can succeed with a very sustainable plan that allows you eat what you love every single day at the correct times.

Check out the M.D. that tried EET 3 months ago and lost 14 pounds in 10 weeks –she only wanted to lose 15 as a goal — she just wrote a testimonial for EET on our website–you can write her directly if you wish too

— so some professionals are at least willing to listen– hopefully someday everyone who needs help and can’t do “what works for you” will as well.

Jon
EET Fitness

They sound like obesity just waiting to happen.

At least when I gained my extra fat it was because I ate too much fat and carbs. Then again I’d be pretty darn slim if I wouldn’t like beer so much 😀

Yeah. It’s better to blindly believe you. No wait… Weren’t you the one to tell queston EVERYTHING.

Basicly I think it’s ok for people to believe in this pseudo-crap. I prefer the way that’s working for me. But meh…that’s just me.