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		By: evilcyber		</title>
		<link>https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2313</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 18:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2311&quot;&gt;Canadianguy&lt;/a&gt;.

To be honest, I never monitored my salt consumption very closely. But then again I don&#039;t eat very many convenience foods. 

And one of these days you&#039;ll have to cook for me, CG! ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2311">Canadianguy</a>.</p>
<p>To be honest, I never monitored my salt consumption very closely. But then again I don&#8217;t eat very many convenience foods. </p>
<p>And one of these days you&#8217;ll have to cook for me, CG! 😉</p>
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		By: Canadianguy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 18:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Personally i do not add salt.  If it is present in the food or recipe I follow it.  I do not see the need to add salt once the food is prepared.  If it is bland reach for other spices like pepper, cumin, herbs, etc..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally i do not add salt.  If it is present in the food or recipe I follow it.  I do not see the need to add salt once the food is prepared.  If it is bland reach for other spices like pepper, cumin, herbs, etc..</p>
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		By: evilcyber		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 14:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2307&quot;&gt;Oliver&lt;/a&gt;.

Oliver, preaching will never get you far. My aim is to present people background information that lets them make an educated decision on their own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2307">Oliver</a>.</p>
<p>Oliver, preaching will never get you far. My aim is to present people background information that lets them make an educated decision on their own.</p>
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		By: evilcyber		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 14:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2296&quot;&gt;Russell Hedger&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for taking the time and contributing these links, Russell! I, however, have my doubts about the paleo diet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2296">Russell Hedger</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the time and contributing these links, Russell! I, however, have my doubts about the paleo diet.</p>
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		By: Oliver		</title>
		<link>https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2307</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 13:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is it not a question of preaching to the converted and preaching to those who choose not to listen? People pursuing a healthy lifestyle will probably stick to the 6 grams of salt a day and have enough knowledge to increase that amount due to hot weather, excercise regime, whether a hard sweater or not. Whereas, the majority of warnings about consumption are firmly aimed at those who eat salted snacks, processed foods etc, etc. It is not unknown for some people to consume 10 times the RDA of salt. My grandmother was a salt abuser - first the crippling arthritis, then the high blood pressure, then the fatal stroke; a teetotaler, non-smoker and apart from the lethal salt levels a good western diet of the porridge for breakfast, lunch, fruit and dinner of meat and three veg. And a spell on the 15 year war, post-war diet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it not a question of preaching to the converted and preaching to those who choose not to listen? People pursuing a healthy lifestyle will probably stick to the 6 grams of salt a day and have enough knowledge to increase that amount due to hot weather, excercise regime, whether a hard sweater or not. Whereas, the majority of warnings about consumption are firmly aimed at those who eat salted snacks, processed foods etc, etc. It is not unknown for some people to consume 10 times the RDA of salt. My grandmother was a salt abuser &#8211; first the crippling arthritis, then the high blood pressure, then the fatal stroke; a teetotaler, non-smoker and apart from the lethal salt levels a good western diet of the porridge for breakfast, lunch, fruit and dinner of meat and three veg. And a spell on the 15 year war, post-war diet.</p>
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		By: Russell Hedger		</title>
		<link>https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2305</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 10:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2304&quot;&gt;Kael&lt;/a&gt;.

That is very true about taste adapting to the amount of salt you eat. I avoid salt as much as possible and I can taste it in lots of things now like sweets and cakes. The biggest source in my diet was from bread and I couldn&#039;t find any bread in the UK without loads of added salt, so I got a bread machine and make my own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2304">Kael</a>.</p>
<p>That is very true about taste adapting to the amount of salt you eat. I avoid salt as much as possible and I can taste it in lots of things now like sweets and cakes. The biggest source in my diet was from bread and I couldn&#8217;t find any bread in the UK without loads of added salt, so I got a bread machine and make my own.</p>
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		By: Kael		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 08:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2302&quot;&gt;Russell Hedger&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, the big problem with salt is that it&#039;s in so many things and that your taste buds get easily used to it, so you just eat more and more maybe without even you knowing it. 

However I personally pretty much prepare all of my food from fresh or whole ingredients, due to my interest in cooking, so I&#039;m pretty much aware of the amount of salt in my diet. Maybe I&#039;m not in an immanent danger of sodium deficiency, but just saying that adding a pinch of unprocessed sea salt to dish when it needs just that flavour is more likely to be indifferent or beneficial to your health than kill you.

Also I&#039;d say that there being many ways of living in the palaeolithic era, a large portion of hunter-gatherers had a larger sodium intake. Many hunter-gatherers lived on the shores where salt is easy to acquire, and it would&#039;ve surely been used for it&#039;s flavour and for storing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2302">Russell Hedger</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, the big problem with salt is that it&#8217;s in so many things and that your taste buds get easily used to it, so you just eat more and more maybe without even you knowing it. </p>
<p>However I personally pretty much prepare all of my food from fresh or whole ingredients, due to my interest in cooking, so I&#8217;m pretty much aware of the amount of salt in my diet. Maybe I&#8217;m not in an immanent danger of sodium deficiency, but just saying that adding a pinch of unprocessed sea salt to dish when it needs just that flavour is more likely to be indifferent or beneficial to your health than kill you.</p>
<p>Also I&#8217;d say that there being many ways of living in the palaeolithic era, a large portion of hunter-gatherers had a larger sodium intake. Many hunter-gatherers lived on the shores where salt is easy to acquire, and it would&#8217;ve surely been used for it&#8217;s flavour and for storing.</p>
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		By: Russell Hedger		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 20:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2298&quot;&gt;Kael&lt;/a&gt;.

Kael, it would be quite difficult to reduce sodium intake to a dangerously low level as it is present in so many foods. I had a look at bread in the supermarket today and most loaves had around 9g of salt in - some had 12g. Just a couple of slices would give you a gram of salt. Salt is added as a cheap flavour enhancer - they even put it in icecream and cola! You are more likely to get hyponatraemia from drinking too much water than not getting enough salt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evilcyber.com/nutrition/how-much-salt-health/comment-page-1/#comment-2298">Kael</a>.</p>
<p>Kael, it would be quite difficult to reduce sodium intake to a dangerously low level as it is present in so many foods. I had a look at bread in the supermarket today and most loaves had around 9g of salt in &#8211; some had 12g. Just a couple of slices would give you a gram of salt. Salt is added as a cheap flavour enhancer &#8211; they even put it in icecream and cola! You are more likely to get hyponatraemia from drinking too much water than not getting enough salt.</p>
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		By: Kael		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 11:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thumbs up for bringing both sides of the argument. One point I&#039;d like to make though is that not all salt is the same. The average salt goes through harsh chemical processing and has therefore lost many of it&#039;s beneficial minerals which can actually improve cardiovascular health. Not saying that salt can be healthy, but with salt (as with all things that are designed mainly for stimulating your taste buds, like for example chocolate) investing in quality is a smart choice. If you pay more, you won&#039;t use it as much, you will savour every bit and in the case of salt and chocolate, quality even means healthier. I personally use an unprocessed salt maybe once a week. I don&#039;t think eliminating it completely out of the diet is good either or at least a small amount of it won&#039;t kill you, just like you said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thumbs up for bringing both sides of the argument. One point I&#8217;d like to make though is that not all salt is the same. The average salt goes through harsh chemical processing and has therefore lost many of it&#8217;s beneficial minerals which can actually improve cardiovascular health. Not saying that salt can be healthy, but with salt (as with all things that are designed mainly for stimulating your taste buds, like for example chocolate) investing in quality is a smart choice. If you pay more, you won&#8217;t use it as much, you will savour every bit and in the case of salt and chocolate, quality even means healthier. I personally use an unprocessed salt maybe once a week. I don&#8217;t think eliminating it completely out of the diet is good either or at least a small amount of it won&#8217;t kill you, just like you said.</p>
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		By: Russell Hedger		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 16:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Evil

The results of the European study published in JAMA are inconsistent with a large number of high quality studies over the past decades regarding the effect of sodium on blood pressure and coronary disease risk. As you have indicated, the study has several weaknesses - there is a good summary here:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/salt/jama-sodium-study-flawed/index.html

Although sodium is as you say an essential nutrient, our bodies are adapted to a palaeolithic diet that would be very rich in potassium but poor in sodium. A consequence of this is that the body tries to retain sodium and when presented with a high sodium diet (as most people have), this extra sodium is retained along with water leading to increased blood volume. This is why blood pressure rises with sodium intake.

The palaeolithic diet would typically contain just 700 mg of sodium per day, and some current hunter-gatherer communities have been measured at just 500 mg per day of sodium without experiencing health problems. Along with this low sodium intake, they take in much higher levels of potassium. Sodium/potassium balance is regarded by some as the key, not just total sodium intake.

Harvard also has some good info on dietary sodium generally:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/salt/lower-sodium-and-salt/index.html

There is good evidence that it increases risk of stomach cancer and risk of osteoporosis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Evil</p>
<p>The results of the European study published in JAMA are inconsistent with a large number of high quality studies over the past decades regarding the effect of sodium on blood pressure and coronary disease risk. As you have indicated, the study has several weaknesses &#8211; there is a good summary here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/salt/jama-sodium-study-flawed/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/salt/jama-sodium-study-flawed/index.html</a></p>
<p>Although sodium is as you say an essential nutrient, our bodies are adapted to a palaeolithic diet that would be very rich in potassium but poor in sodium. A consequence of this is that the body tries to retain sodium and when presented with a high sodium diet (as most people have), this extra sodium is retained along with water leading to increased blood volume. This is why blood pressure rises with sodium intake.</p>
<p>The palaeolithic diet would typically contain just 700 mg of sodium per day, and some current hunter-gatherer communities have been measured at just 500 mg per day of sodium without experiencing health problems. Along with this low sodium intake, they take in much higher levels of potassium. Sodium/potassium balance is regarded by some as the key, not just total sodium intake.</p>
<p>Harvard also has some good info on dietary sodium generally:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/salt/lower-sodium-and-salt/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/salt/lower-sodium-and-salt/index.html</a></p>
<p>There is good evidence that it increases risk of stomach cancer and risk of osteoporosis.</p>
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